The Blackberry Of Commercial Airliners Finally Gets Certified

"Margin Of Error" (marginoferror)
12/18/2015 at 10:02 • Filed to: CANADA, PLANELOPNIK

Three years over schedule and $5G over budget,the Bombardier CS100 was finally awarded its airworthiness certificate this morning. It is expected to enter commercial service with Swiss early in 2016.

Its big sister, the CS300 is expected to get its certification in the coming months in order to enter commercial service with Air Baltic in June 2016.

The C-Series became the laughing stock of the aerospace industry in 2014 when the program was once again delayed for another year. Earlier this year, the program was bailed out by the Provincial government of Quebec. The federal government of the Canadian Dominion is also expected to blow a few billions of taxpayers money on the failed project.

Firm orders are stalled at 243, with no new orders in over a year. Meanwhile, its direct competition, the 737MAX and the A320Neo secured over 8,000 firm orders.

By all means, the CSeries is an excellent aircraft, but just as Blackberry with that new Android device, it may be too little and too late.

DISCUSSION (12)

DrScientist > Margin Of Error
12/18/2015 at 10:29

not to nit pick, but surely you mean something other than $5,000

i’ve been $5,000 over budget within 30 minutes of starting a project.

Margin Of Error > DrScientist
12/18/2015 at 10:31

G stands for Billion (Giga-million) in the Metric system.

DrScientist > Margin Of Error
12/18/2015 at 10:35

learn something new.

never seen it referred to that way.

Grindintosecond > Margin Of Error
12/18/2015 at 10:50

Although not a firm order, United is discussing the CS100....100 of them. Orders stalled because both Boeing and Airbus were pricing their similar sized planes aggressively to encourage anyone out there to make up their mind with an established product. It’s by no means failed. Once it’s live and in service, it’s pure performance will be hard to beat. In testing it’s been beating it’s own projected costs to operate, and those are over 20% les than a 737/Airbus. Think of it like a narrow body 787. (Although Boeing looses $30m on each dreamliner) Now, my company has 40 orders and will tel anyone asking, with less than a year to go before delivery of the 300, that they are still examining its place in the market. Which is BS. They’ve had a plan for the last 5 years and are just keeping the secret close, cause its most likely industry disruptive.

Margin Of Error > Grindintosecond
12/18/2015 at 10:53

This is good information, I certainly hope you are right

Grindintosecond > Margin Of Error
12/18/2015 at 11:06

At the very least we will see it enter service and see how it does. After that,Boeing’s 737max and the A350 bus need to step up and narrow the efficiency gap or the CS will get a foothold, especially when oil prices get wonky again. Neither of it’s competition has geared fan engines and neither of them can hold a candle to that reduced cost to operate-hoever the Embraer E2 190 series just might. But that’s later on. It’s going to be more than perforemance making or breaking the CS. It’ll be industry politics because a new player in market share can hurt everyone if there’s too many players in one ring.

Margin Of Error > Grindintosecond
12/18/2015 at 11:08

Apparently Bombardier tried to sell the program to Airbus, or at least a participation, is that true, and how this would have work ?

For Sweden > Margin Of Error
12/18/2015 at 11:10

2canuck4me

Margin Of Error > For Sweden
12/18/2015 at 11:11

That’s a shit comment, but it checks out.

For Sweden > Grindintosecond
12/18/2015 at 11:12

And as a bonus, there’s a third cockpit style for pilots who are already switching between Boeing and Airbus

[training managers sobbing]

Grindintosecond > Margin Of Error
12/18/2015 at 11:26

True. I don’t think it would have. I think they tried to see what values were there to each other and see if anything could be found. But, think about your own company. If your profits come mostly from parts and service, how would helping someone encroach on your own market share help that? Besides, the CS plane is different enough from what Airbus does and produces that it wouldn’t help at all to take on an entirely new design that would have to have a whole new line of parts support for. Airbus has their own system integrations they use and it works just fine. Producing two systems is redundant and increases the size of the parts bin. Think about GM buying a failed development of VW and then trying to sell it. Their parts and service would have to take on new dimensions that would probably cost them money overall in scale.

Margin Of Error > Grindintosecond
12/18/2015 at 11:28

thanks for the ‘splaining